實(shí)戰(zhàn)口語(yǔ)情景對(duì)話：Good Job 干得好

Todd: Talking about kids and school, what do you think about failure? Like it seems like we're moving to where we're not allowed to tell kids that they're not doing well, that everybody has to be a winner. You know, everybody gets a good grade. What do you think about that especially as a teacher and a parent?

托德：就孩子和學(xué)校來(lái)說(shuō)，你怎么看待失敗?我們不能告訴孩子他們做得不好，或是每個(gè)人都一定要成功?；蚴撬腥硕家煤贸煽?jī)之類的。作為老師和家長(zhǎng)來(lái)說(shuō)，你怎么看?

Julia: As a teacher, I think, I read something recently that the chastising a student, telling them they did bad, has no motivational value whatsoever but praise does. So definitely I think it's important to always praise. If you have a really bad student and you can't find anything to praise them on then I don't know what the answer is really. But I'm sure you can always find something to praise someone on.

朱莉婭：作為老師來(lái)說(shuō)，我最近看了一些文章，里面說(shuō)處罰學(xué)生或是告訴學(xué)生他們做得不好并不會(huì)起到激勵(lì)作用，而表?yè)P(yáng)可以鼓勵(lì)學(xué)生。所以我認(rèn)為表?yè)P(yáng)非常重要。如果你的班級(jí)里有一個(gè)壞學(xué)生，你在他身上找不到可以表?yè)P(yáng)的地方，那我也不知道應(yīng)該怎么辦了?？墒俏掖_定一個(gè)學(xué)生是會(huì)有值得表?yè)P(yáng)的地方的。

Todd: Yeah.

托德：好。

Julia: So I think it's important to focus on the positives all the time.

朱莉婭：我認(rèn)為一直關(guān)注積極的方面很重要。

Todd: See actually I kind of disagree.

托德：其實(shí)我不太同意你的觀點(diǎn)。

Julia: Do you?

朱莉婭：是嗎?

Todd: Yeah. I think that, you know, that your score is or your progress is absolute. Like either you pass or you fail, either you get high marks or low marks but that's the motivation. Like if you get, if you don't do well, then you want to try harder. You know, like if you're a fat kid and you don't want to be fat then you, you know, you're motivated to lose weight or if you aren't a star in the baseball team you need to practice harder so you move up. But if you tell kids that they're doing great when actually they're not exceptional then maybe that actually does harm.

托德：對(duì)。我認(rèn)為成績(jī)或者是進(jìn)步是絕對(duì)的。不是合格就是不合格，不是高分就是低分，但我認(rèn)為這就是動(dòng)力。如果你成績(jī)不好，那你就會(huì)想再努力一些。就好像如果你是個(gè)胖孩子，你不想再胖下去，你就會(huì)有動(dòng)力去減肥，或是如果你不是棒球隊(duì)里的明星球員，那你就需要在練習(xí)時(shí)更加努力，這樣你才能進(jìn)步。但是如果你告訴并不優(yōu)秀的學(xué)生他們做得很好，這可能會(huì)造成傷害。

Julia: OK, well maybe I misexplained that. I don't mean give a false, I don't mean say they're doing well when they're not doing well but what I mean is focus more on the successes than the failures.

朱莉婭：好，也許我沒(méi)有解釋清楚。我的意思不是給出錯(cuò)誤的認(rèn)可，我不是說(shuō)在學(xué)生做得不好時(shí)還要夸他們做得好，我的意思是要更多地關(guān)注成功而不是失敗。

Todd: Oh, I see. Like confidence building?

托德：哦，我明白了。建立信心，對(duì)吧?

Julia: Yeah, I guess that's what I mean more. But I guess we're talking about motivation rather than an end result like, of course, yeah, you're going to fail some things. I don't know. I never failed that many things at school and later on in life when I did encounter failure, I took it pretty bad so perhaps it would have been healthier for me to have failed a few things. I don't know.

朱莉婭：對(duì)，對(duì)，那才是我的意思。我認(rèn)為我們現(xiàn)在在說(shuō)的是動(dòng)力而不是結(jié)果，當(dāng)然人肯定會(huì)遇到失敗。要怎么說(shuō)……如果我在學(xué)校和生活中從來(lái)沒(méi)有經(jīng)歷過(guò)失敗，那當(dāng)我日后失敗時(shí)我可能會(huì)無(wú)法接受，所以經(jīng)歷過(guò)失敗對(duì)我來(lái)說(shuō)可能更有好處。不知道我說(shuō)明白沒(méi)有。

Todd: Well that's the question, isn't it? Like when you fail or you do bad I think that maybe that's the eye-opening moment you need to see. Like you need to see the truth rather than just tell somebody that they're doing well when actually maybe they're not or that they're exceptional and talented when maybe they're not.

托德：這是個(gè)問(wèn)題，不是嗎?如果你失敗了或是表現(xiàn)不好，我想要用開(kāi)放的觀點(diǎn)去看。要看到事實(shí)，而不是在學(xué)生做得不好或者沒(méi)有那種天賦時(shí)還要告訴他們做得很好。

Julia: When they're not, that's true. Yeah, there was another thing that I read as well about telling, praising children for their intellgence, you should never, you should never tell a child they're smart because they get a false image of what intelligence is. You should always praise effort.

朱莉婭：沒(méi)錯(cuò)。我還看了一篇有關(guān)表?yè)P(yáng)孩子智商的文章，那篇文章的觀點(diǎn)是永遠(yuǎn)不要告訴孩子他們很聰明，因?yàn)槟菚?huì)讓他們對(duì)智商產(chǎn)生假象。你應(yīng)該要表?yè)P(yáng)他們的努力。

Todd: Ah, right.

托德：說(shuō)得對(duì)。

Julia: As opposed to some sort of innate, what we believe to be an innate quality that you can never have if you don't have it. So telling a child yeah you're really smart, when the child faces a problem that requires them to apply themselves and maybe fail they're afraid.

朱莉婭：而不是強(qiáng)調(diào)那種天生的品質(zhì)，我們認(rèn)為天生的品質(zhì)是，如果你不擁有那種品質(zhì)，那你就永遠(yuǎn)不會(huì)擁有。如果你告訴孩子你非常聰明，在孩子面臨需要他們自己去解決的問(wèn)題時(shí)，他們可能會(huì)害怕失敗。

Todd: Mmm.

托德：嗯。

Julia: Because then they may think no I'm not intelligent after all. So it should always be about praising effort and actually the result is not so important.

朱莉婭：因?yàn)樗麄兛赡軙?huì)想，也許我并不聰明。所以應(yīng)該表?yè)P(yáng)孩子們的努力，而結(jié)果并不是那么重要。